Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 2:19 PM

Subject: The Numbers!

Hello Officers of Jasper County ABATE,

 

    I am writing this email on Membership and Location. I know a lot of opposition will bark and say that Confederate RR has done a lot for us. I do not see this as the main reason for staying there. I see membership dwindling and meeting numbers on the decline. I am making this proposal from the numbers you see below to move the meeting to a more centralized location.

    I have spoken with Brian The owner of Peppers Porch in Bluffton that is excited and enthusiastic about our meeting at his place anytime we wish. He has ample indoor and outdoor seating, pool tables, food and staff that can meet our needs. I have other reasons for moving the meeting but none are as important as the membership numbers. I feel we would have a 5% increase in membership and 10% increase in meeting attendance in just a few short months. See below I have done the legwork on the geographical membership makeup of our organization.

    The numbers from the current updated members list from Dianna show that a majority of our memberships come from Beaufort County ie. Hilton Head and Bluffton. Okatie and Hardeeville should be considered local when thinking of the geographical member numbers. I have them broken down into their counties of origin.

 

Beaufort County - 41 Active Members

Jasper County - 17 Active Members

Hampton County - 6 Active Members

 

Beaufort County

Bluffton - 22 Active

Hilton Head - 11 Active

Beaufort - 8 Active

 

Jasper County

Ridegland 8 Active

Hardeeville - 7 Active

Okatie - 2 Active

 

Hampton County

Tillman - 1 Active

Early Branch - 5 Active

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Here is Ronnie Mole AKA Top Dog as he calls himself in his response and questioning my membership.

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"crankn thank you for working on "the numbers" I do agree if we could find a more central location but central JASPER COUNTY is Ridgeland NOT BLUFFTON! We covered this ground when we had to move from Traceys the members voted to keep the meeting in JASPER COUNTY! It has nothing to do with the R/R doing so much for us. If you can get Peppers to move to JASPER COUNTY I am all for moving the meeting to Peppers! I could make the same argument for moving the meeting to Hampton with all the bikers I know n Hampton! now come up with a location in JASPER COUNTY and we will talk about it but during my tender as top dog the meeting WILL STAY IN JASPER COUNTY! furthermore the "the numbers" can fool a fool the members list includes the former Bluffton/HHI members I hope I stated this loud enough for the cheap seats! crankn if you want cheaper drinks and a short stumble home don't come to the meeting after what happened in n.c. you are barely a member in good standing yourself.

THE LAST SENTENCE IS MY OPINION ONLY.

NITESTICK

Tyrones Response

I really like the fact that Jasper County ABATE is the only people in a place during our meetings. No distractions is a good thing. I have no problem with where our meetings are held now. I do believe we should meet in Jasper County. I'm not going to fight against somewhere else, but that's how I feel.

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Ronnies response Top Dog was enough to make me question his motives and hidden agenda.

 

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My response to Top Dicks response

 

Good Morning,    

 I should have expected a drunken rebuttal from "The Top Dog" but never expected this kind of blatant arrogance and one sided, no alternative response. Your grammar Sir has me questioning your abilities even further. Jasper County has nothing to offer when it comes to places to have meetings. The location is in complete desolate and Confederate Rail Road offers $2.75 for a Budweiser and $5.85 for cheap bourbon and this sounds like price gouging to me. We had more members and members showing to meetings when we were at Tracy's, although I think that it had a lot to do more with Tracy and her bar patrons than ABATE.. As far as all the "Hampton Bikers" you know their is only 5 Members coming from that area and all I ever see is you, "The Top Dog" and his spouse. Jasper and Hampton combined don't even make up half of the Members in Good Standing. From what the constitution reads "Good Standing" means someone that has paid their $20. The members list contains up to date members from the State Membership Coordinator. Simple math maybe too much for you to understand. Jasper County is not growing our membership and by keeping the meetings their will only insure that we lose more Hilton Head / Bluffton Members. I hope I stated my case loud and clear enough that it can be understood by even you. There are no cheap seats!     As Legislative Coordinator the state ABATE constitution reads "The Legislative Coordinator works with the A.B.A.T.E. of South Carolina Coordinator and legislative committee to develop strategies and coordinate membership lobbying efforts. Do you know what Lobbying Efforts are "Top Dog"? How are we to lobby people that are not there or don't even exist? This is not a personal feeling of just me but many members have expressed their feelings with me on the issue of having the meeting moved to a more populated, well known location.     You have attacked me on a personal level over what happened on our trip to NC Mountains. I never mentioned that you all left us on the side of the road after my Uncle's motorcycle experienced issues which were fixed. It is clear to me that when my Uncle and Aunt needed our help you all left us and continued on your journey. I never once criticized the group for doing this, but will always remember. My membership dues are paid for this year and I will continue to read the newsletter when I get it, but I have made a decision this morning to resign as the Legislative Coordinator of Jasper County ABATE effective immediately. I will not serve a group lead by "The Top Dog Regime any longer. Call me when the chapter becomes a democracy. I would like to say that up to this point it has been a pleasure to serve Jasper ABATE. There are a lot of good people in the organization. I learned a lot from my dealings with law and structure.     Moving Forward, the website is Jasper ABATE's and will need someone to update the information. I have never charged for the site. The charge is $19.95 a month that has been coming out of my pocket. If you want to continue keeping it let me know where to send the bill. It can be paid Monthly or Annually. Please put me in contact with whomever has the abilities to take care of it. If you do not want it let me know and I will close the site. I also administrate the facebook Jasper ABATE site. Let me know and I can remove it as well.     I think I covered everything and said all I needed to say. A vote would have been nice on the issue. But as stated "The Top Dog" says it stays in Ridgeland. Good Luck with that!

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Here is Tyrone's response to my resignation, trying to cover for Ronnies Mental Illness what an idiot he is folks!

 

Monty,

Please... Ronnie's reply was abrupt & indicated a state of mind that precluded delicacy and discrimination. It was also to the point. So be it; that's who Ronnie is and why we love him and also why when you are in a jamb, he's the first person you want next to you. The reason it came out that way is because we have been down this road before. Backtracking can be  frustrating. You use the word "democracy?" How many times are we going to vote on the same issue before it's a "democracy" in your eyes? Taking 

 your toys and stomping off home shows more about your character than your words do. And please let me finally set the record straight about your Uncle & his roadside emergency. He ran out of gas because he didn't fill up his tanks when the rest of us did at the first gas stop. The B.S. story of a leaking float bowl was pure crap and we all know it. Nobody challenged the story because we really didn't care. We were all relieved  to have a break from him. Was he not back with the pack at the next gas stop? Why? How is it he was able to catch up if we "just left him?" That's just the high point. Every rude and abusive word that came out of your Uncle's mouth was borne by the group. It was not appreciated in the least. Neither was the fact that a pure novice 16 year old was on the trip to endanger every single one of us. Your judgment for putting us in that situation is highly questionable. Obviously, your looking cool is  more important than our lives and well being. You know the truth and  twisting the story to make it sound like we left a friend stranded with a  broken bike shows that much more about your character. Stop the lies and deal with reality. Now that the diversions are hopefully behind us, your point is well made and taken for consideration by all including Ronnie. He was part of the discussion before and before that again. A.B.A.T.E. is an ongoing  evolution and things change as we go along. We have previously considered this & we have voted on it. That's not to say that minds and people don't change. There will be discussions on the topic and you can bring to  witness every single person that wants a Bluffton venue. That's not to say that we will hold a forum on your behalf. Don't expect to ever change things without due process.

Ozzie

Ty Osborne :::Ty asked that his email address be removed. Dont harass Ty he has enough trouble.

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My Final Respose to Ty and the Officers

 

First and foremost I want to say that I do not dislike Ronnie or his 

 views. He has always treated me with mutual respect. I only wished to have a forum and take a vote on the issue. I spoke only with Officers on this issue and didn't release any of these conversation emails to the mailing  list. I did not want to create Drama but then Ronnies reply pissed me off. He needs to be sober and not popping pills before he writes an email. This 

 part is just my opinion only.

  A lot has happened since we last voted on the issue. We have grown dramatically and a MAJORITY of our members live in Hilton Head and  Bluffton, Beaufort County. I knew we would have opposition to the idea when some officers and myself talked on the subject. I was ready to submit the facts to the chapter and take a vote. Let the grouo decide, not just one person saying this is what it is. The Numbers are not fooling anyone as "The Top Dog" stated in his rebuttal. The Membership Numbers are clear and precise. Then he attacks me personally. Whats next name calling? Oh brother my eyes have been opened. Tye seems to have a memory lapse and totally forgot them leaving us in  Frankin NC and continuing their trip when the Dyna Glide had a lose ground wire, which I fixed. First time my Aunt and Uncle were both covered with gas from their carburetor float sticking and fuel leaking as they drove. So save your comments. As Billy stated Saturday "Your Talking Out Your Ass"! My Uncle never said two words out of the way to any of these people. Tye save you rhetoric, big words and right wing extremisms for the State ABATE Paper please. I do value your opinion just the same. Tye my 17 year old cousin has ridden motorcycles since he was 8 years old. He did well I thought. I reflect back to your crash in Charleston a few short months ago, now all your "years of experience" came well into  play didn't they? Speak facts not dramatics. Either novice or seasoned  riders can find themselves on their asses in the street it seems. I think you're a smarter person than that, or at least I would like to think so.    I have not lied in any of my previous statements, are you going to start calling me a liar now. Man Please STFU while I still like and  respect you! All I was wanting was a process. Minds and People have changed. I enjoy the company of all the members and officers and it pains me to step down. I would have liked to finish my term and been replaced over time. Leave with some sense of accomplishment and knowing I did the  best job I could do for the chapter. I will not continue to support this group until decisions are made and brought forth.    Now Tennessee, love this dude. Always smiling and has options, not closed minded to growth. Jasper County has no options for meeting places,  I understand that. They either get burned down or go out of business which 

 is probably going to happen to Confederate RR sooner or later. We all know  that Jasper County is the capital of growth. I myself and a few others thought the idea of moving closer would draw more members and grow the  chapter with activists. Growth and Membership is part of the job. We need  participation. I do not see a need for another Southern Lowcountry  Chapter. I think we need to see unity in our numbers. Tri County ABATE Ok wasted my lunch break and more of my time,

Thanks Sincerely,

M "CrankN"Godwin